H2O (Hidden Hill Observatory) User Agreement

H2O Access
Directions to the Site
Patron Membership
User Agreement Form
Orientation Lecture and Rules

H2O Access

The Tri-Valley Stargazers Astronomy Club (TVS) leases a hilltop from the owners of a ranch on Mines Road south of Livermore and east of San Jose. This is private property, secured and restricted for authorized members and their guests at all times. Authorized (key holding) members can access the site any day of the year. Non-key holding members and the general public must be escorted to, while at, and from the site by key holding members -- NO EXCEPTIONS. The site is on private property. It is not a park. It is a working ranch with livestock, ranchers, etc. It is not open to the public. Uninvited visitors are not allowed.

No one is allowed to drive out to the site without an escort. Meeting your guests at the gate on Mines Road is not allowed as this may draw unwanted attention from the neighbors. Anyone wandering out there will not be admitted. In fact, the observatory is a long way from the locked gate at the road, so visitors will not even be noticed by the authorized members on the hilltop.

The Tri-Valley Stargazers usually conduct several "open house" nights at the observatory each year. On these nights, anyone (even non-members) can visit the observatory by meeting in a group in Livermore and being escorted out to the site.

The dates of the open house trips are announced in the TVS newsletter, Prime Focus. We try to schedule the open house trips on Saturday nights, near the last quarter moon so that the moonrise near midnight provides a convenient time to end the open house and we do not interfere with the prime new moon observing time reserved for members' use.

The procedure for members to gain access to the site is:

  1. Make sure you are a member in good standing.
  2. Pay the $20 key deposit and $10 annual access fee to the Treasurer, preferably via our online payment system but it can also be done either in person or by mail to: Tri-Valley Stargazers, P.O. Box 2476, Livermore CA, 94551. You will be sent a copy of this agreement, also displayed below.
  3. Receive this agreement, read, sign, and return it to the Treasurer, in person or by mail to: TVS, P.O. Box 2476, Livermore CA, 94551.
  4. Contact the observatory director for mandatory orientation. This must be done either in person or by telephone.
  5. After the orientation you will be given the combination to the Mines Road gate and the key to the gate at the bottom of the hill. If the combination is changed or you forget it, you can get it from any board member. Members are not authorized to tell anyone the combination.
  6. It is preferred that the orientation be conducted as part of the H2O open house events, but individual orientation trips to the site can be arranged, schedules permitting.
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Directions to the Site

You will not find the directions to Hidden Hill Observatory here, or anywhere else either.

Members are not allowed to tell anyone the directions to Hidden Hill Observatory, even other club members. Only board members can give out directions to the ranch or the site, the exact location (in any form including maps, coordinates, and addresses), the name of the ranch, and the combination to the gate.

You can not meet or wait for anyone at the gate to the ranch. You must meet elsewhere and drive up together with your escort. If you are an escort there is no need to give your guests exact directions before leaving, as they must follow you up there.

Every year we have problems because some well meaning person somehow hears about our site and decides to check it out for themselves. Anyone not knowing proper entry procedure is always a nuisance to the ranch personnel. We have almost lost access to the site because of these problems several times in the past.

We can tell you that it is approximately a 40 to 60 minute drive to the site from Livermore. The road is a mountain road: narrow, windy, steep, unlit, one lane much of the way and there are no services available of any kind. Most of the road does not have any cell phone coverage. If you go, be prepared.

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Using the Jack Marling Telescope

Currently Patron members can use the Jack Marling Telescope.

After being a member of TVS for a year, and with the approval of the board, for an additional $70 per year you can become a Patron member. We do have a limit on the number of patron memberships available (we are sharing one telescope), but we haven't had to turn down any patron membership applications yet. Patron membership gives you access to The Jack Marling 17.5 inch Telescope located in the rolloff roof H2O building. This telescope is usually available for public viewing during the open houses.

The Jack Marling telescope was destroyed in a recent fire. We will replace it soon with comparable scope. In the mean time, patron membership is no longer available.

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User Agreement Form

For a PDF version of the Agreement Form, click here

In exchange for the opportunity to use the Hidden Hill Observatory (H2O) observing site, I ________________________, TVS member in good standing, agree to:

By my signature below I show that I have read and understood the above conditions. I understand that the failure to comply with any of these conditions may result in the revocation of my privileges.

Signature____________________________ Date _______________ Key number________

Print Name: _____________________________________________ Issued ____________

Address: ________________________________________________

________________________________________________________

Phone____________________ e-mail _________________________


Return this form to TVS P.O. Box 2476, Livermore CA 94551, or directly to the key master, or bring it to a regular TVS general meeting.

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Orientation Lecture & Rules

These rules may be changed by TVS at any time.

The Hidden Hill Observatory is a wonderful dark sky site, and we are very fortunate that it is available for our use. It is essential that we maintain the goodwill of the people who work and make their homes on the ranch if we are to continue to enjoy access to the site. The ranch people get very little benefit from us and they are not particularly interested in astronomy. If by carelessness or accident we become an annoyance to them our access will end quickly. This is not a public park. We are there only at the invitation of the owners.

What follows may seem to be an excessive and overly detailed list of rules, but rest assured that this list was created to address and prevent specific problems that have arisen in the past. The rules cover two main issues 1) showing respect and courtesy to the owners, tenants, and workers, and 2) safety and consideration of others.

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The Rules

The Golden Rule at H2O is "be invisible". Do not attract any attention and do not cause any inconvenience to the ranchers or the neighbors. The ranchers get up early, go to bed early and have busy days. Stay out of their way. Of course feel free to engage in conversation if you happen to meet them when they are not busy.

If someone complains about something you did, do not argue that you were being reasonable. Just apologize and state that you will try to not do it in the future. Keeping access to the site open to the club is much more important than demonstrating that you were right.

Drive VERY VERY slowly. No dust. The most common complaint is that people drive too fast and raise clouds of dust. This dust settles on clothes on the clothesline, goes in open windows, and is a major problem everywhere. When on the dirt roads we must use extreme care and drive even more slowly than seems necessary. Even 5 MPH can raise significant dist. Remember you are driving through someone's front yard. There have also been problems with the perceived danger to small young domestic animals. You need to make a BIG SHOW of driving extremely slowly to demonstrate that we take their concerns very seriously. It does not matter if you see the ranchers driving more quickly, we will always drive slowly.

Always pay your $3 per car per visit, no matter how short your visit is or what the reason -- even retrieving lost items or performing observatory maintenance. The $3 pays for the right to pass through the ranch once. Driving through without paying is totally unacceptable.

Always close and lock the observing hill gate. That gate is for both the security of the observatory and for control of livestock. A closed but unlocked gate can be opened by livestock. Do not leave the gate unattended and open or unlocked for the next car, even if they said they would be down in two minutes. Always leave the other gates in the same state as you found them, open or closed, locked or unlocked. Always leave the TVS lock on the Mines Road gate locked and scrambled (even if the chain is not looped through both sides of the gate). Never lock a gate so that one of the other locks in the chain can no longer be used to open the gate.

Due to serious fire danger, no fires, charcoal, or outside camp stoves are allowed. Camp stoves can only be used inside an RV or trailer. This restriction is in effect all year. There is no water on the hill for fire fighting. Even one little fire would destroy our observatory and end our relationship with the land owners. Fire is such a concern in this area that even giving the impression that we are not being extremely cautious in unacceptable.

No Smoking. This applies to cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and any other form of smoking. If you are desperate you can smoke tobacco inside your vehicle, parked away from other observers, with the windows rolled up (so that a sudden gust of wind does not carry away burning embers) and using your vehicle's ash tray. Dropping butts and matches on the ground leaves the impression that there have been people smoking outside and they are probably not being sufficiently careful about fires. The fire danger is sufficient reason to forbid all smoking, but there are more reasons: Smoking ruins the fresh air outdoor experience for other people. Smoke leaves damaging deposits on optics. The battery recharger in the observatory emits hydrogen when operating which could lead to an explosion.

No music, radios, TVs, scanners, computer audio, generators, electronic games, or other sources of noise (an exception can be made for hearing live coverage of an astronomical event of general interest at a reasonable volume level). If you must listen to something use headphones or listen in your vehicle with the windows rolled up. If other observers can hear it, it is too loud. These sounds disturb the tranquillity of the site, interfere with concentration, and attract the attention of people on the ranch, and nearby ranches. Cell phone and other radio conversations should be kept to a minimum.

No leaving the hilltop. You will soon be trespassing on someone's land if you wander around. You also risk meeting wild animals, spooking livestock, and possibly getting shot.

No alcoholic beverages or other intoxicating substances (legal or illegal). The use of intoxicating substances voids our insurance, interferes with the observance of the other rules and makes driving less safe.

No Pets. They not safe there as they could easily run off and encounter wild animals (such as mountain lions, bobcats, wild boars, coyotes, foxes, rattlesnakes, etc.), and they may annoy livestock or otherwise be a nuisance with their noise.

Do not tell anyone (even other members) the directions to the site, the name or exact location of the ranch, or the combination to the lock. Disclosing this information is reserved to board members. It is a recurring problem that someone learns about the site and wanders up there without escort or knowledge of the proper procedures and then proceeds to inconvenience and annoy the ranchers and astronomers. New visitors wishing to check out the site should attend an open house, or be escorted by a valid keyholding member.

To preserve everyone's night vision use only dim red lights after dark. Red LED lights are better than white lights with red filters. If you are using electronic devices the displays should be covered with red filters which do not leak white light. Set up your equipment away from other observers and always point your electronics away from other observers. Try to park facing the exit if you are leaving early so that your backup lights are not used. If you need to move things into or out of your car regularly after dark, keep the windows rolled down so that you do not have to open your doors. Open your trunk early and keep it open if the trunk light goes off or can be switched off. Turn off your car alarm. If you do need to do something that causes white light, warn everyone first and wait until they are ready.

No firearms, no drones. No leaving the hilltop. No generators. No running your car's engine while parked.

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